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"I always do an all-night horror marathon on Saturdays where we start at seven and go until five in the morning." --- Quentin Tarantino ::::::::::: MY CRITERIA FOR DISCUSSION ENCOMPASSES THE HORROR GENRE AND BEYOND, SO I USE THE TERM "NIGHTMARE MOVIES". SPOILERS CAN OCCUR WITH OR WITHOUT WARNING. READ AT YOUR OWN RISK.

What ghastly TRUE STORIES should by made into movies?

February 18th 2007 23:01
face of horror
From the pages of the newspapers and the World Wide Web what stories would make for nasty horror cinema?

There are some that were so shocking that for one reason or another they have never been made into movies. Perhaps the subject matter is considered too sensitive. Or the person or persons involved have had legal injunctions taken out to prevent any dramatisation of the events being produced.

Or perhaps the events were so bizarre that no one would ever believe the story if it were into a movie.

Some true violent crime stories do get made into movies, yet the productions are so under-produced that they end up on a video store shelf with bad cover art and even worse production values and hardly anyone sees them.

Or they end up as tele-movies, a dime a dozen.

There are numerous movies made about fictional serial killers, but what about the real serial killers? The Ted Bundy’s, Jeffrey Dahmer’s, John Wayne Casey’s, etc. There have been movies about some of these, but they're usually not of such a high calibre. Are the crimes simply too sick and twisted to have mainstream movies made about them? Is the permeation of evil so thick that it would choke a theatrical audience?
Jeffrey Dahmer mugshot
The case of the bodies in the barrels from the township of Snowtown in South Australia, is a most frightening and appalling case. Those rednecks really were killing for pleasure. Some of the details of that case give me the absolute shivers.

Again in Australia the ex-freezing worker Katherine Knight who stabbed her husband to death, then decapitated him, skinned his body, carved up his body and cooked part of it intending on serving him to her grown kids for dinner. Now if that isn’t horror, I don’t know what it.

What about mass murderers? Gus Van Sant’s Elephant (2003) was loosely centred on the Columbine massacre in America. But it wasn’t really a horror movie. The Port Arthur massacre in Tasmania, Australia is interesting. The worst single killer mass murder. That’s scary, but the intriguing element is the conspiracy theory surrounding the case, suggesting he was not the lone killer.

The “Rambo” styled killers, Michael Ryan and Julian Knight, each strolled down their respective streets in Hungerford, England, and Melbourne, Australia, shooting from the hip, killing numerous people before using a bullet to end their own lives. These cases happened within two weeks of each other.

There hasn’t been a proper movie about the O.J. Simpson case. He was acquitted; perhaps he has an injunction in place.

What about the adventurer Aron Ralston who got his arm jammed between two boulders in Utah and was eventually forced to cut part of his own arm off in order to survive? Talk about touching the void.

Reverend Jim Jones
I’d like to see a proper movie about the Jonestown massacre. Now that’s got a lot of sensational ingredients; charismatic, fanatical religious leader, jungle setting, media intervention, trained killers, mass suicide by the order of God.

Mind you, thinking about it I’ve come to the conclusion dramatisations of any of these only captures part of the evil. Documentaries on the other hand, keeping in mind there’s enough cinematic material at hand, would capture even more of the real horror, and we are talking about real horror.

Capturing the Friedmans (2003) was a different type of horror movie; a quietly compelling, modern suburban horror. No one died, but it was chilling nevertheless.

Michael Jackson mugshot ... scary!
When the finally make a biopic Michael Jackson, it’ll be the cute drama that turns into a freak show. Perhaps not really a horror movie, although who knows what’s still to come in the bizarre and dysfunctional life and times of Wacko Jacko. He seems to romance the weird and unsavoury with a passion.

What horrendous, gut-wrenching and evil true stories do you know of that you think would make for pure horror cinema?


* images on this page were taken from the following wikipedia pages:
Jeffrey Dahmer, Jim Jones and Michael Jackson

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Comment by Tracy

February 18th 2007 23:23
A week in the life of my morning-face....it's pretty scary...

Comment by Damo

February 19th 2007 00:52
There was a two part mini series about Jones Town made about a year or two after the event. Ihate the mini series structure. Bore the crap out of people for one episode then have all the action in the next.

I think the life of L Ron Hubbard is worthy of examination as a true horror story.

Michael Knight was chilling when I saw his police interview. His reason for shooting people for a second time was to finish them off. The shrinks called it a combat zone mentality.

Child soldiers? The horror of training childred to hack civilians to pieces.

Comment by David

February 19th 2007 01:14
Bryn ...

Anything written by Brian Masters or Harold Schechter would do it for me ...

H.H. Holmes ... (Sponsored by the Chase for Skase Foundation, and funded by Denton?) ... The House of Horrors ... (Sponsored by Maddam Toussads?) ... Ivan Milat even ... (sponsored by Paddy Palins? Or Cheap as Chips?) ... The Snowtown Murders (Sponsored by Boony and Beefy VB ... as in, The Barrells in the Bodies?) ...

One of the most underrated movies about a serial killer of all time? ... Citizen X ... (about the life of the Russian Serial Killer Andrei Chikatilo ...

And yes ... a film about Jeffrey Dahmer would make my life ...

David ...

Comment by Cibbuano

February 19th 2007 01:36
I think they're making a film about Dahmer?


Comment by Anonymous

February 19th 2007 01:59
This is brenton but orble's login hates me today.

I think that it's a BIG YES to a child soldiers movie. Get it out there and diuscussed.

Other one - make a movie on the Chianese Death Sentancing system. Serious horror.

And while not quite horror, I'd love a film about the dude who took so much acid he basically tripped his way through a whole year.

Comment by Bryn

February 19th 2007 02:38
Thanks for the comments guys ... I'm pretty crook and wrote this post in a hurry ... should've done more research ... i should've known there'd be films existing already .... or in the works ... or whatever ...
So Brian Masters is a good read then David? Is his book on Bundy the definitive? Or is it on Dahmer? I wonder who's making the flick on him ...
Which is the best movie on Bundy? Is the book by Ann rule The Stranger Beside Me worth reading?
There's a book Killing for Pleasure about Snowtown. I've seen that flick Citizen X in video stores ...
Child Soldiers ... They feature in the new Leonardo DiCaprio flick Blood Diamond.
I hadn't heard of the mini-series on Jonestown, but I don't like mini-series as a rule of thumb.
Morning face. Yeah I got pretty scary one kicking off this week.
Ugh.

Comment by KylieW

February 19th 2007 04:00
There's the House of Horror's stuff. Fred and Rosemary might translate well to the big screen.

A movie about child soldiers would be pretty gripping stuff.


Comment by Bryn

February 19th 2007 04:08
Ahh, yes, those English freaks. That could translate very well, a veritable charnal house of sordid sex smells and the lingering odour of death wafting from the backyard and under the house ....

Comment by Tracy

February 19th 2007 04:23
Hi, yes I was just thinking the same thing, Kylie. Or the Moors Murderers, Ian Brady and Myra Hindley. That would be such a controversial film. It would be a hard film to watch, but I would be curious to see their portrayal of both Ian and Myra. Coming from the UK, it was quite astounding how much media time it attracted and the resounding hatred that still exists. They committed crimes that society will never forget. Understandably. Very sad. And then of course The Smiths wrote a song about it that gives me goose bumps, very powerful music and lyrics. But I'm waffling now...

Hope you feel better, Bryn.

Comment by Damo

February 19th 2007 05:05
Abu Graibe
Not for the sqeemish.

Comment by Bryn

February 19th 2007 06:38
I thought perhaps The Honeymoon Killers (1970) was about Myra and Ian, but I checked and it isn't ... What did the Moors killers do that would be hard to watch?

Comment by JohnDoe

February 19th 2007 09:10
The story of Tom Hanks winning three academy awards, tieing him fo the most of all time, spine tingling, vomit inducing stuff.


I will come back later with a serious answer, been a big day...

Comment by Tracy

February 19th 2007 20:43
I guess I thought that it would be hard to watch as one of the children's bodies has still not been found (Ian refuses to disclose), so the case would still be current in a way and very hard for all families but particularly that one.....

Comment by Tracy

February 19th 2007 20:48
Oh and plus the fact they raped and then killed one of the children and enjoyed it, but then that is a characteristic of a psychopath isn't it?

Comment by Bhumika

February 19th 2007 20:59
Iraq war..Halliburton and yes Middle East crises..if u want more horror..make a movie on my life, i bet everyone will be sacred.

Comment by David

February 19th 2007 21:10
Bryn ..

'The Shrine of Jeffrey Dahmer' by Brian Masters is to me one of the most thoroughly and meticulously researched true-crime novels I've ever read. So many books hit the stores within a week of his arrest, and although, I did read them, and enjoyed them, there is no comparison really.

And another fascinating book is 'A Father's Story' which was written by Lionel Dahmer (Jeff's father) ... It is so interesting because to this day Lionel Dahmer has no idea how his son became a serial killer. He really should read his own words. All the answers are in that book, but he can't see them himself. Talk about a robot.

Harold Schechter's collection is superb. The first book I read of his was Deviant (Ed Gein) ... and I was so damn disappointed with the film 'Ed Gein' ... Whoever wrote that screenplay hadn't read Schechter's book properly or was just a shit screenwriter? Or maybe the Producer fucked it up (as often happens)? Or the dirctor (as also often happens)? ...

I've had a screenplay about the childhood of a serial killer under option now for almost three years. I get it back in May, and I'll see if I can find a Producer who does more with it than sit on his fat lazy arse for three years denying me the right to farm it out anywhre else ...

People wonder why writers get disillusioned with the film industry. Try dealing with the dickheads and morons!

David ...

Comment by Bryn

February 21st 2007 03:49
David,
Cheers for those pointers. I'd looked at that Masters book. Think I'll buy me a copy. Yeah, "under option" ... underfuckingrockandstone more like. I feel for you.

Tracy,
those Moors murderers sound hideous.

Comment by Anonymous

March 28th 2007 01:41
There already is a reasonably decent Dahmer movie from 2002 and starring Jeremy Renner. I believe it was a straight to video release, but his performance was uncanny and unnerving.

I'd pick either the first school murders that come to mind, from Bath, Michigan, USA in 1927. You think what happens now is awful, this guy was a lunatic who blew up the school, then torched his house after killing his wife, if I remember correctly.

There's also anything about children who kill, like that of James Bulger where the boys were both 11 or Mary Bell at 10. All Bad Seed / The Other material. Shudder.

Although there is a movie in the works right now, the case of Silvia Likens where she was murdered by the woman (her aunt? I don't remember) who house her and basically all the kids in the neighborhood. Ketchum wrote the book (The Girl Next Door -- horrific) that it'll be based on.

The UT Austin, TX, USA bell tower shooter, Charles Whitman. Lots of body count (17) there and perhaps one of the first mass killings ('66). The one at the McDonald's in California, the post office in Oklahoma or the Luby's in Texas. Fascinating psyches.

Any famous (or sort of) people killing. Lana Turner's daughter, for example.

Last of all, the perversion that was Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka from Canada. Her own sister, specifically targeted, drug, held in bondage and raped (while being video taped by Karla), then murdered.

Comment by Anonymous

March 28th 2007 01:45
Me again. Damn, maybe I should get me an account.

-lilith

Comment by Bryn

March 28th 2007 08:35
I remember the MacDonalds massacre vividly .... the image of the tricycle lying on its side was very disturbing ....
Yeah, I found out about the Dahmer film after I posted. I'd liek to see it, apparently Tom Savini did the sfx.
The Bulger case still irks me!
Thanks for the great comment Lilith!

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