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HORRORPHILE VIOLATES GOOGLE CONTENT POLICY

May 24th 2010 01:24
As you can see above and below, I no longer have any advertising. It seems my appreciation of horror in art and popular culture, in particular movies, has got me into trouble with the big boys at Google and their Ad-Sense programme. According to their programme policy “publishers may not place AdSense code on pages with content that violates any of our content guidelines. Some examples include content that is adult, violent or advocating racial intolerance.

Sites with Google ads may not include or link to:
• Pornography, adult or mature content
• Violent content
• Content related to racial intolerance or advocacy against any individual, group or organisation
• Excessive profanity …”


Well, it seems I’ve breached their guidelines and violated their content policy. I received an email from Google late last week which informed me that upon reviewing my account they noticed I was displaying Google Ads in a manner that was not compliant with their policies. According to Google “As stated in our program policies, AdSense publishers are not permitted to place Google ads on pages with violent content. This includes sites with content related to breaking bones, getting hit by trains or cars, or people receiving serious injuries.”

Horrorphile – Pleasure of Nightmares primarily reviews and discusses horror movies, or as I call them “nightmare movies”. Of course the subject matter is going to be adult or mature, and will contain violent content; this is the very nature of horror, whether it is explicit or implicit. I’m not advocating using violence in real life, nor am I promoting pornography, but I’d be a hypocrite if I said the links between sex and death should not be inferred within the horror genre. I certainly don’t advocate racial intolerance, but I use the odd expletive, I take the Lord's name in vain from time to time, and I champion the drinking of beer when watching a movie, but I’m hardly excessively profane.

The programme content guidelines list numerous other restrictions, of which I can safely say I do not feature or provide links to any of it. I’ll admit that I never read in detail all of Ad-Sense’s content policy guidelines, an assumption on my behalf that has landed me in hot water. However it concerns me greatly that Google have taken these steps without actually looking at the bigger picture. My blog is not about reality, it’s about the fictional realm of movies. My site receives over 10,000 hits a day. I’m no Bloody Disgusting, I’ll admit, but I must be providing a few extra bucks in the pockets of the Google advertisers. Apparently not enough.

Google states their decision is final, however if I make appropriate changes to bring my site into compliance they may enable ad serving again, but this is not possible for all cases. I’m not about to censor myself, so instead I’ll retreat back inside the Darkness with my loyal True Believers, lick my wounds, and evaluate my advertising options.

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Comment by Spring-Heeled Jack

May 24th 2010 01:45
Absolute nonsense! First thing I would do is scour the mainstream film review websites and see whether any are using google as their ad provider. Then see how many of the films you have reviewed are also dealt with or even referenced on these websites. If all the links in that chain hold true I can't see how they can logically refuse service to you, without also refusing these other sites.

All your content passes numerous international ratings committees, so it's not as if you're purveying illegal material. This really has me baffled, especially considering how many of the advertising links that appear in a google search appear to breach their own code of conduct...

Comment by Bryn

May 24th 2010 04:19
Jack, cheers for the support ... Yeah, it kinda baffles me too. I thought at first it might've been a bot of sorts, but three days later it followed through and the ads were removed. I'm looking into it.

Comment by Matt Shea

May 24th 2010 04:47
This is really disappointing Bryn. I hope you can get it sorted out. I really like how there's no warning or opportunity for dialogue. Good luck, and keep us posted on your progress.

Comment by David O'Connell

May 24th 2010 05:11
This is bullshit mate. We should start a petition to have them reinstated. Everyone here at Orble would support you to the hilt.

Comment by Bryn

May 24th 2010 06:23
Cheers guys ... still waiting to hear back from Jon.

Comment by Mr Nice Guy

May 24th 2010 07:18
I'm with Jack on this one. Glean as many sites of a similar ilk and see how many have Adsense content. Use this in a justified presentation of your case and embarrass them into submission.

I would expect that the Orble heirachy should at the very least back you up.

Comment by ShaunK

May 24th 2010 08:11
hear hear

Comment by JohnDoe

May 24th 2010 12:44
This is ridiculous!

The sheer quality of content and obvious dedication to the genre itself featured on your site should hold sway on any draconian policy Google may have....I wonder if they even have visited the site and actually read the content itself or if they just browsed the images.

For what its worth you have my unwavering support. Start a petition and my signature will be at the top of the page.



Comment by Spring-Heeled Jack

May 24th 2010 12:46
Doubly baffling given that Orble has its own built-in measures for flagging content that may be inappropriate for young ones...

Comment by Nonymous

May 24th 2010 15:28
My site has been AdSense-barred since 2006! I've only ever received one cheque from Orble, for about $10.

Consulted with Jon at the time of the barring. I think he said to take down any potentially offensive content or else protect children with the adults-only warning. Google then re-reviewed Philosophy Blog, but it still didn't pass muster.

I suppose the silver lining was that I could then lie to myself and pretend there was some nobler motive than money.

Hope you get this sorted, Bryn! It must be a blow to Orble as well as you. If Google doesn't relent, I'm sure there's hundreds of production companies who'd be delighted if you'd consider displaying their animated flash banner.

But whatever happens, don't stop writing.

Comment by Mountain Fog

May 24th 2010 16:22
the thought police strike again...

it is ludicrous and illogical, for if it is taken to the extreme, then only G rated films could be reviewed.

it reminds me of the McCarthy era in its obtuse, generalised and arbitrary application of censorship and victimisation.

Orble should start looking at google's competition, Bing, or whatever.

screw google, it raised the payout bottom line by $50- without informing anyone, as it doesn't make enough bucks out of the planet apparently!

keep writing though Bryn, and, there is a silver lining to all this; now you can write NO HOLDS BARRED!!

cheers

fog



Comment by Michaelie

May 24th 2010 20:14
Grrr! This is insane! Best of luck getting it sorted Bryn, I think you have a lot of supporters - keep writing!

Comment by James Rickard

May 24th 2010 21:11
This is BS to the nth degree!!!!! First of all-how can you have this sort of site and NOT link to material that some may find objectionable? And, further, many similar sites are more offensive! Let us remember, as MNG pointed out, similar sites still have their Adsense. Will all of their advertising be pulled? I seriously doubt it!

As a fan of cinema, I have a fairly high tolerance level and have noticed that in the event that you link to something that may be objectionable you usually warn readers to the point of almost making an apology.

Even if I don't comment, I try and check out your blog at least once a week. However, if stupidity like this persists, I wouldn't blame you halting your efforts!!!!!

Good luck in whatever you decide!!!!!

Jim

Comment by Jason King

May 24th 2010 22:01
Wow crap, they will have to pull down all sites that write about war then, shit I should be removed for the trailer of Beneath Hill 60
I have a friend at Google Adsense - will pass on a request to check it out. I should also be banned for the Winnebago Man trailer and even the Love Ranch Trailer - I think a guy gets punched in the face a fair bit. If this is also the case perhaps YouTube and IMDB should not have advertisers, although I doubt they are getting adsense.

Bets of luck getting it sorted.

Comment by JMD

May 25th 2010 00:07
Just started visiting your site for a couple of months. It's nice to be able to read reviews by someone who knows how to write. I hope you can work things out with them or find another.

Comment by Bryn

May 25th 2010 00:32
Thanks for all the support guys!

Comment by Matt Shea

May 25th 2010 03:34
Yeah, Bryn for the win!

And on a similar note, while this episode ultimately never affected his actual website, a US-based friend of mine has an interesting story on how one's content can be misinterpreted:

Really Long Link

Comment by Matt Shea

May 25th 2010 03:37
Erm, let's try that again. Take a look here.

Comment by Steve Gann

May 25th 2010 05:05
Wow sorry Bryn, Maybe you can add some other ads on your site or at least a tip jar for all of your readers to donate for the cause of getting our daily Horrorphile fix!

Comment by Bryn

May 25th 2010 06:40
Cheers Steve, don't fret, Horrorphile will continue to roar loud and long. Thanks for the support

Comment by Andrew Situ

May 25th 2010 07:38
This is pure madness. Google should look at itself in teh mirror before deciding what is worth endorsing or what isn't. You guys are discussing horror films as a matter of interest and I respect admire your passion for that.

It seems to me that censorship has gone over the top and the reasons behind it may be political.

Comment by Jake 5

May 25th 2010 13:51
LAME!

Comment by sam sall

May 25th 2010 21:07
WHAT! This is totally unfair ....
Your blog rocks Bryn and you reviews are the best...
Lets start the petition David suggested

Comment by Purrot

May 25th 2010 23:48
Bryn, I am sorry to hear this. I am at a loss as to what is so objectionable that they do this to you. I was researching some simple topics on Google the other day and ran into web sites that would give my open minded mother a seizure. Google is going after your sphincter dry!

I love what you do, although I don't say much. Keep on writing!

Comment by Cinema is Truth

May 26th 2010 00:41
Wow, I can't believe that. What bullshit. I'm glad you won't censor yourself. It's just not worth it. Never compromise yourself

Comment by Bryn

May 26th 2010 01:37
It's comforting to read all the support ... Big props to you all! The Darkness illuminated.

Comment by Yank in Oz

May 26th 2010 04:20
That stinks...but best of luck in fighting it. Fingers crossed for ya!

Comment by Joshua_the_samurai

May 27th 2010 01:18
Well, that's not right at all. Seems though, we can say whatever we want to now, so: Fuck you Google!

the samurai Has Spoken

Comment by Iriejones

May 27th 2010 14:43
well, sorry you cant use googloe adsense but uh, good for you for following the rules.

chaos is not what we want, we need structure as a civilized people. regardlessw of what kids say... we all NEED structure.

rules make it safe for my children and your friends.

I commend you for doing what is right.

hey, I am sure you can get better ads anyways, if you try... more focused targeted ..

good luck, -iriejones@hotmail.com

Comment by Bryn

May 27th 2010 23:03
Irie, thanks, but I'm a little confused by
rules make it safe for my children and your friends.
... Why are you assuming my friends need protecting? Or did you mean their friends ...?
I may be doing what is right in Google's rulebook, but I don't necessarily think their decision was the right one.

Comment by Iriejones

May 28th 2010 03:57
thank you for your input.
ellaboration:

deep in the seeds of chaos there is structure. without structure there is no chaos.

regardless of what your human brain tells you during the day, when you sleep and shit, your mind acts and reacts on a animal level that we cannot ever change.

You may fight the system but deep down inside you fear the systems absence.

If there were no "rules" to violate, there would be no "horror" in reality or imagination.

I respect your thoughts, but i also think they are irrelevant to the big picture.

we crave big brothers arms, no matter how much distress and anarchy we exude.


or maybe i just wanted argue about something today?

Comment by Bryn

May 28th 2010 05:08
Irie, thanks for the curious comment, but I'm not going to argue with you, because I respect chaos as much as order. However, you didn't answer my question; were you suggesting my friends needed protection from online content, or was that simply an error on your behalf?

Comment by Iriejones

May 28th 2010 15:36
no no error. yes your friends need protection. any one you consider a "friend" in the most honerable way, should be protected, in fact, by definition, a friend warrants protection from other friends.


are you referring to accuatnaces?

p.s you have an awesome site dude, i came across it by accident while snooping in my girlfriends email.

kick ass site. i am a regular visitor, first time i posted a comment tghough


cheers, regards, irre

Comment by Bryn

May 29th 2010 01:27
I'm not out to protect my friends, unless they're being physically threatened and I'm present, they're adult enough to make their own decisions. Horrorphile - Pleasure of Nightmares is primarily a site for mature people, since it reviews movies with adult content. Cheers for the props, I work hard to make this blog-site the best it can be within the limitations I have.
I'm curious of your age, if you don't mind me asking, and country of origin, as I'm trying to get more of an idea of my demographic. Cheers!

Comment by Iriejones

May 29th 2010 04:44
you review movies to protect your friends from wasting time.

you drive inside the lines to protect your fellow humans.

if you knew that when you visited www.camilonevarez.com you would be immediately killed by an electric surge projected through your computer, would you not warn your friends? or would you just sit back and let them figure it out?

so, anyways. you said yourself unless they are physically threatned.
Well, in a way google thinks that by allowing borderline adult content to be a part of thier adsense program it may put some people (who knows, kids, retards and guys who like skinny jeans) who are dumb enough to think immagination is real can take this the wrong way and physically threaten someones healthy well being.

that being said. who cares. ..

demographic?
Male/35yrs/90242/hetero/Nativ e/children/No formal school/ 38-40 HHI / im bored

Comment by Chris Chadwick

May 29th 2010 14:15
Didn't Google recently "Make a stand" against China in an effort not to be censored? Then the giant points its rather large crooked finger at your blog? You have to appreciate the irony and hypocrisy in that move.

Comment by Anonymous

May 30th 2010 01:15
I don't get it...it just doesn't seem fair at all. In the meantime I hope you find someone else to let you post your ads and soon.

Comment by Always Eighteen

May 30th 2010 08:20
Good luck Bryn. I hope this doesn't stop you from blogging and publishing what you're passionate about.

Comment by Anonymous

May 30th 2010 21:53
Bryn, I can't believe it. I was doing research on adsense when your site popped up--long time no hear, old friend!

From what I gather, adsense is a ponzi scheme; I haven't been able to verify that yet though.

As far as decision-making goes, and fairness, and comparable websites--well, if you go to youtube and type in This Film is Not Yet Rated, or if you've seen the film, you will also get some insight on just how far a corporation goes to protect its own bottom line. I think the revelations in that film are probably very much the same as what you would experience, trying to fight google.

Maybe you should make a doco of your own..

..great "seeing" you again, Bryn! I miss you and JohnDoe. I'll have to have a lurk now and then, keep up with my two favorite movie reviewers. Good luck, and if there's a petition to sign count me in. I'll track this post.

D. Armenta

Comment by Anonymous

May 30th 2010 21:56
Oh yeah..and I'm betting IrieJones is about 15. Give or take a few years.

Comment by Bryn

May 30th 2010 23:08
D Armenta, cheers for that! What's a"ponzi" scheme?

Comment by Kelly Wand

May 31st 2010 14:16
Police state.

Comment by Iriejones

May 31st 2010 23:11
omg. i just like .. y'know realized, you are all kids!

oh fuck me!

ponzi scheme? are you for real?that makes absolutely no sense at all. you obviously werent doing research for college.LOL ha... a ponzi scheme.

police state, kelly wand? really? like tibet? like china? really?



fucktards. grow up and be honest with yourselves, the only REAL MOTHER here is the dude horrorphile.

he knows what the real deal is... you should take notes.

Comment by Bryn

May 31st 2010 23:17
Kelly, scary.

Comment by Kelly Wand

June 1st 2010 00:58
Iriejones, if I wrote like you, I wouldn't exactly be bragging about my fullness of years, dude.

Comment by Bryn

June 1st 2010 03:28
Irie, I appreciate the plug, but your comment attitude doesn't sit comfortably with most other 35-yr-olds I know.

Comment by Iriejones

June 1st 2010 03:33
hmm.. let me decipher,

"if I wrote like you, I wouldn't exactly be bragging about my fullness of years, dude"

First of all, your grammar is elementary. Your use of form is abnormal, even for Kings English.

But most notable is your need to address me as if we were old buds.

More on a valid point:
Riddle me this;
if this action is comparable to a police state, please educate me fellow politicaly savvy dude. Please, tell me more-iriejones@hotmail.com - Out of respect for horrorphile, this will be my last fucktard post. I dont want to litter this page with savant ramblings.

but i will respond to all emails.


Ok, HPhile. I will censor my attitude for the sake of "the comfort of other 35-ry olds you know" ok?

anyone wanna engage in a REAL CONVO anytime. im here. even in real life. 90242.

but lastly know this :
This site rocks. Even more without ads.
The internet is chunk full of idiots like myself who will litter your mind and tresspass on your soul until we have developed communitie4s within your ouwn self.

THATS RIGHT, I RENT SPACE IN YOUR HEAD.


Comment by Kelly Wand

June 1st 2010 10:17
"The internet is chunk full of idiots like myself who will litter your mind and tresspass on your soul until we have developed communitie4s within your ouwn self."

You lost me after "mind."

"THATS RIGHT, I RENT SPACE IN YOUR HEAD."

A worthy goal, but hardly.

Comment by Anonymous

June 4th 2010 12:08
Let me see if I've got this right. You can use Google's search engine to download porn and violence, but they won't pay advertising dollars to a blogsite that features violence or porn?

Comment by Dianna G

June 5th 2010 00:07
Bryn,

How does it feel to be banned from Adsense? The giant that is Google has taken enough notice of you to remove your ads... don't you feel special?

I hope you can eventually get your ads back; if not, I hope it doesn't deter you from reviewing movies how you want to review them. Horrorphile is a great blog and I can't quite imagine Orble without it.

~Dianna

P.S. As someone who recently was fifteen, I take offense to you guys assuming that Irie is fifteen.

Comment by Anonymous

June 6th 2010 11:32
Dianna,
Cheers. Yeah, actually I do feel special, thanks for reminding me that my blog is actually exceptional in their eyes ...
The jury is still out on the future of ads on my blog ...
The Darkness is still here though.
Thanks for peering in.

Comment by nighly-dvd-review

December 11th 2010 20:26
Messed up what they did to you bub. Don't know why they would be so anal. I looked at the majority of your posts and could not find anything that I would have found offensive in the least.

There is more violence on American television than on your website.

Comment by Bryn

December 13th 2010 00:25
thanks for the support

Comment by anish

July 10th 2011 17:17
Did I mention Google once displayed top-less girls (with strategically placed limbs) on a G-rated article over at hubpages? Google has monopoly in the industry and is taking unfair advantage!
On an average I earn $1.50 a month from Filmenator.com And I have started wondering if that is the price of freedom of expression.
Appreciate your spirit Bryn!

Comment by Bryn

July 11th 2011 00:05
Yeah, Google are conservative and can't see the wood for the trees.

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